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Paramu: I agree you don't have to believe in God to go to heaven. If your mind is corrupted then no one can prevent you to Go to hell.
Suren: Parama, that Murugan main branch is running good . Crowded still.
Paramu: They never accept a credit/debit card. Such a big restaurant but only cash
jeeva mkraja: உதயா..ஏம்லெ வம்புக்கு இழுக்க? செவனேனு தானே போய்கிட்டு இருக்கேன்....ஏன் ட்ரிப்பிள் எண்ட்ட்ரி போட்டுகிட்டு இருக்க? போப் சொன்னதை ஏற்கனவே 2 தடவை போஸ்ட் பண்ணிட்ட..இது 3வது
Uthayamaran: 
MRShankarnarayan: I agree you don't have to believe in God to go to heaven
jeeva mkraja: சாமி..தூங்கு....பொங்கக் கூடாதுனு இருக்கேன். புரட்டாசி மாசத்துல சைக்கிக் எல்லாம் கட்டவிழ்ந்து ஆடுவாங்களாம்...
Paramu: ஒரே டைம்ல மூணு topic பேச நம்மளால தான் முடியும்
Suren: Yes Parama
Paramu: *** silks is trying to become a Walmart ?
Uthayamaran: Lagu
Paramu: Suppressing small business owners
Suren: Strategy is different
Paramu: Hmm.. Then *** silks may have to face some political pressure. If you provide all under one roof then it will affect other small business people
jeeva mkraja: அஃறிணை உயர்திணை ஆகுமா?. ஒரு மாசம் 
இருந்தேன்..உதயா..எல்ப் பண்ணிருக்கலாம்..கொந்தளிக்காம இருந்திருப்பேன். கெடுத்துட்டியே
Biju Dhyaneish: Laggu.. Just catching up on discussions... You carry-on Laggu..
But no bad words.. Remember that laggu... 
jeeva mkraja: கத விடுற நீ..அவனை மதிக்கல..இவன் மதிக்கல..நு. இதே மாதிரி தான்..ஒரு நாள் கரவேட்டியோட நீ நிப்ப. படிக்கல படிக்கலனு சொல்லிப்ட்டு மார்க் வாங்குறவன் தானே நீ?
Paul Joshua: Paramu. Today's update regarding Alzheimer in UK. One in three people born in the UK in 2015 could get dementia
Paul Joshua: So any solution to our biggest problem - we are looking forward to. But unfortunately nothing has proven to solve the biggest crisis of the developed countries. As health care is free in UK, it will put our economic under lot of pressure too.
Paramu: That doctor has written a book about coconut oil. I'll get you the link from YouTube. For some reasons scientists are suppressing the benefits of coconut oil. This has Lauric acid which is equivalent to mother's milk
Paul Joshua: Only because it has got bad fat.
Paramu: No.. What I heard was Saturated fat has three types. LCT MCT and SCT. LCT is bad but MCT is good. Coconut oil has MCT and not LCT. : MCT will be easily absorbed by liver and it gets converted into energy. LCT - Long Chain Triglyceride. MCT is medium and SCT is short.
MRShankarnarayan: 
Paramu: For your information I have been consuming coconut oil for cooking. And my LDL is 62
MRShankarnarayan: Sorry மருத்துவம் தத்துவம் ஆகாது
Paramu: What do you say about this?
MRShankarnarayan: இருப்பது ஒன்றே நடப்பது நலமே 
Paul Joshua: One theoretical consideration is coconut oil may increase your metabolism which in turn burn calories
Paramu: I have started coconut oil consumption few months ago. I don't have any issue on coconut oil consumption ... You could read the benefits of coconut oil in Google. In fact it is the best oil..better than olive oil
Paul Joshua: Studies only have concluded that it is better that hydrogenated fat. We all need oil/ fat in some form. But use of oil in Indian cooking is excessive. So we recommend moderate use of oil. You are right it should be moderate .. However coconut oil has more MCT which is good for liver and overall health
Paul Joshua: In Kerala they use lot of coconut oil in their cooking and they too live longer.
Paramu: Scientists have earlier concluded that Saturated Fat causes Cholesterol spike which in turns induces heart disease. A causes B and B causes C so A causes C. It's a transitivity theory however what they have not done is whether all form of Saturated Fat cause problems.
Paul Joshua: Fat deposition is gradual until we get the block. Asian genes are more prone for these changes. Low density lipid are the culprit which can float and deposit
Paramu: Yes.
Paul Joshua: Sedentary life style increase the risk
Paramu: Atleast my LDL didn't increase because of coconut oil.. I did a blood work after lunch
Paul Joshua: I did mine when I was at India. Mine are above border line. I got family history too. My genes are like that. So I have to be watchful.
Paramu: :).. Based on Dr B M Hegde, it has got nothing to do with your ancestors
Paul Joshua: So any studies on medicine can't be universal because of our genetic influence
Paramu: One in million cells has that probability. Watch video of B M Hegde. He would uncover lot of things in the medicine field
Paul Joshua: May be his theory. Need to be proved. There are critics about B M hedge's view on certain things.
Paramu: That is always there. People are always there to shoot you down even if you do good things
Paramu: That's the main thing in Allopathy.. Everything is evidence based. I have seen people who doesn't have diabetic complaint but both of their parents are diabetic. It's not allopathy. It is science/ scientific. Collection of verified facts.
Paul Joshua: They are blessed.
Paramu: It's not a blessing..
Paul Joshua: We can give scientific explanation to that why they haven't got it
Paramu: It's the way their body is structured. Plus their own maintenance. That's what Hegde is also saying
Paul Joshua: Yes. Of course. I am prone too. But I can prevent.
Paramu: He is not throwing anything on the air Without knowing.
Paul Joshua: It's life style.
Paramu: He can substantiate his findings
Paul Joshua: We can control/ prevent certain things. Some can't be. How about type 1 diabetes.
Paramu: For some reason pancreas has stopped working or forgot it's activity.. That can be induced. To get back on track. That's why I would try rather than going for artificial insulin injection
Paul Joshua: Do you believe same can be applied to cancer? Degenerative diseases as we get older.
Paramu: Yes cancer can also be treated the same way... But it cannot happen overnight. As our medicine is way slower but it can cure.
Paul Joshua: Yes our body is self healing. But only to some extend.
Paramu: I meant Tamil medicines. Even degenerative diseases too. For cancer use - Nithya Kalyani powder. Degenerative Disk Disease - Mudavattukal kilangu
Paul Joshua: Why western countries spent lost of monies still when this could cure? On research
Paramu: They are not aware plus it won't give instant reaction. Still lot of people are submitting white papers on these which gets published in US national library of health medicine website
Paul Joshua: We all looking for remedies. What is acceptable is proven therapy with results to quantify and recommend.
Paramu: Most of these herbs have proof. If you read their white papers they would have experimented this with rats or any other animals
Paul Joshua: If they proven in phase one trial, sure there will be funding to extend it to further
Paramu: Pharma wont allow
Paul Joshua: Ok. I just as you one thing. In Tamil medicine, how they treated a fractured bone. If you remember
Paramu: The whole medical field is run by Pharma companies
Paul Joshua: Ask
Paramu: Puttur Kattu
Paul Joshua: Yes. What they did. Used egg and flour. Or oil
Paramu: May be.. but I'm unsure of all medicines inside that
Paul Joshua: What they didn't do is. They didn't do X-ray to see what the extent of fracture is. They didn't care whether there was disruption to blood vessel.
Paul Joshua: They restrain and positioned and let the body to heal by itself.
Paramu: X- Ray wasn't there at that time
Paul Joshua: We do the same.
Paramu: Ok..
Paramu: External treatment Could more or less be same in all type of methods
Paul Joshua: But look for all these. Align in with screws and plates. And do plaster of Paris. And promote the body to heal by itself.
Paramu: Ok...Josh - you are an expert in this field. So I'm not challenging.. However these were my analysis and findings
Paul Joshua: Not like that. I believe in what I am doing. It not like india, things are done for commercial benefit. Science too work for betterment of humanity. Science too believe in music therapy, meditation etc.
Paramu: Yeah of course. When you mix medicine with business then people will be in trouble
Paul Joshua: That's the human behaviour
Paramu: This has been happening not only in India but also in the US
Paul Joshua: Yes big trails were conducted by US in Indians. WITH OUT CONSENT OF THE PATIENT.
Paramu: I believe that any English medicine that you take will impact the liver. Because cells won't consume such medicines. Those rejected items are dumped on liver.
Paul Joshua: Yes. Liver is big factory. It's main role is to metabolise things in your system. Not dumbed. It get tired in the process of working hard doing the hard work of clearing it. Some times we consider this benefits are greater than its risks and treat.
Paramu: Yes that's why I will always avoid English medicine though it gives instant reaction.
Paul Joshua: And also modern medicine doesn't force. We explain risk and benefits. And its patients choice whether to choose.
Paramu: Yes. I read the risks more than its benefits. 
Paul Joshua: Informed decision making. We involve patient in decision making be. Otherwise we will be sued by patient if we don't do so.
Paul Joshua: Can be
Paramu: Yep
Paul Joshua: Sorry to bore you.
Paramu: Nope I treat this as a healthy discussion. Our friends might be bored to see all these I pay more attention to health related topics in any form.
Paul Joshua: I am off to sleep. Nite nite paramu.
[05:08, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Good Night!
[05:10, 22/09/2015] Paul Joshua: One final thing. Fish curry tastes yummy if it is cooked with coconut milk and coconut oil.
[05:10, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Enjoy and it's good for health
[05:27, 22/09/2015] Biju Dhyaneish: Guys... Don't worry.. Laggu has got a superb matter for his blog..
[06:28, 22/09/2015] Paramu:
[08:01, 22/09/2015] Ponnambalam: GM friends
[08:14, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Good Morning Pons.
[08:15, 22/09/2015] Ponnambalam: ஒரே நேரத்தில் அரசியல் வணிகம் உடல்நலம் என பல தளத்தில் பயணித்த சந்தோஷம் தந்தது நேற்று நடந்த உரையாடல்களை வாசிக்கையில்.
[08:15, 22/09/2015] Ponnambalam: Parama GM.
[08:16, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Yeah we were intangible yesterday
[08:26, 22/09/2015] Uthayamaran: Good Morning guys..
[08:27, 22/09/2015] Paramu: வணக்கம் அய்யா
[08:48, 22/09/2015] Jeevarajamanikandan: Gm all. ...Yenda saraku adikumpothu liver pathi yethum theriyalayo? Liver sammanthama pechu irunthucheda. Liver pathina pechu yaarna pesuna sarakku kudikka koodathu.
[09:07, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: ஜோஷ், பரமு...அருமையான கருத்துரையாடல்பிஜு...நாட்டி பாய்..நல்ல ஐடியா குடுத்த..
பரமா...தே.எண்ணெய் உபயோகப்படுத்துவது நல்ல விசயம். ஒரிஜினலா? எங்கே வாங்கிட்டு போய் அங்க வச்சிருக்க? அங்க வேதிக் கலப்பு இல்லாத பொருள் கிடைக்குதா? நம்ம மக்கள் யாரோ வாட்சப் ல பகிர்ந்த ஞாபகம்....தேங்காய் எண்ணெய் பற்றி.
Uthayamaran: Virgin oil னு சொல்லுறாங்கப்பா. தேங்காய் எண்ணெயின் இளவகை. வேதி கலக்காதது. உடலுக்கு ரொம்ப நல்லதாம்.
[09:16, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: ஆங்...இப்படி புதுசு புதுசா பேர் வச்சி வெக்கிறானுவ..விலை அதிகம் வச்சு.
[09:16, 22/09/2015] Uthayamaran:
[09:18, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: சாதா எண்ணெய், கொழும்பு தேங்காய் எண்ணெய்.... ரெண்டு வகை இருக்கு. அப்ப கொழும்பு தானே வெர்ஜின் ஆயில்?
[09:18, 22/09/2015] Ponnambalam: கொழுப்புடே
[09:18, 22/09/2015] Uthayamaran: கொப்பரைதானே வித்தியாசம்.
[09:18, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: எப்படே திருந்துவோம் நாம?
[09:19, 22/09/2015] Uthayamaran: கொழும்புக் கொப்பரை நல்ல தரம்னுதான் நினைச்சுக்கிட்டிருக்கேன்
[09:28, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: ஒரு காலத்துல மளிகைக் கடையில் எண்ணெய் வாசனை எவ்வளவு நல்லாயிருக்கும். ஹ்ம்..flavour, refining னு சொல்லி கெடுத்துட்டானுவ. நம்மளும் பழகிக்கிட்டோம்
[09:29, 22/09/2015] Uthayamaran: 🏼
[09:39, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: Someone shared an article regarding coconut oil adulteration. nowadays the coconut oil what v r using as hair oil including that par*****e brand, is made from petro chemical with coconut oil flavour. If u can see the description...strange Warnings mentioned. தேங்காய் எண்ணெய் குடிச்சுட்டா முதலுதவி என்னென்ன செய்யனும்னு போட்டிருக்கானுவ.
[09:58, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Lagu - I get extra virgin organic coconut oil here. I know about Parachute and VVD brands.. I don't even use them even for hair. In US you can trust the quality of the product... All these organic coconut oils are made either from Philippines or SriLanka
[10:00, 22/09/2015] C Ramesh. PACM: Appo Indiala entha company oil vangappa?
[10:01, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Search for Organic coconut oil..
[10:01, 22/09/2015] C Ramesh. PACM: oh.....Ok.
[10:03, 22/09/2015] Paramu: Get organic oil which is packed in a glass container. Don't go for plastic one..
C Ramesh. PACM: Ok
[10:09, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: 🏼🏼
[10:26, 22/09/2015] Suren: Will send a video regarding coconut oil benefits shortly
[10:26, 22/09/2015] jeeva mkraja: 🏼🏼🏼🏼
மேலே நடந்த உரையாடல்கள் ஒரு கண் மருத்துவர் (லண்டனிலிருந்து )மற்றும் கணினி வல்லுநர் (அமெரிக்காவிலிருந்து).
காலையில் மொத்த உரையாடலயும் படித்துவிட்டு என்னிடம் வேலை செய்பவரிடம் தலைக்கு என்ன எண்ணெய் உபயோகப்ப்டுத்துவீர்கள் இந்தோனேசியாவில் என்று கேட்டேன். வேற்றுக்கிரகவாசியைப் போல் என்னைப் பார்த்ததும் ஏன்னென்று கேட்டேன்...தலைக்கு எண்ணெயா? என்று பதில் கேள்வி வந்தது. தேங்காய் எண்ணெய் தலையில் தேய்த்துக் கொண்டால் நாறுமாம். என்ன கொடுமை? தேங்காய் எண்ணெய் எதற்கு உபயோகப்படுத்துவீர்கள் என கேட்டதற்கு..உணவுக்கு மட்டுமே பயன்படுத்துவோம் என்று சொன்னதும் எங்கு வாங்குவீர்களென்று கேட்டதும் மீண்டும் அதே விசித்திரப் பார்வை. என்னடா இது..எதுக்கெடுத்தாலும் முறைக்குது என்று எண்ணும் போதே அவர் சொன்ன விஷயம் வியப்பாக இருந்தது. தேங்காய் எண்ணெய் எப்போதும் 2 வாரத்திற்கு ஒரு முறை எங்க அம்மா வீட்டிலேயே செஞ்சுருவாங்க. ..
இதைப் போய் யாரு வெளியைக் கடையில் வாங்குறது?
ஒரு காலத்தில் நம் வீட்டிலும் செய்திருக்க வாய்ப்புண்டு தானே. இன்றைக்கு விலையதிகம் உள்ளவைகள் தாம் தரமானவை என்றும், சுத்தமானவை என்றும் நாம் நினைப்பது எவ்வளவு பெரியத் தவறு? தேங்காய் துருவலை கொஞ்சம் நீர் விட்டு பிழிந்தெடுத்து பிழிந்தெடுத்து அப்படியே வாணலியில் சமைத்தால் போதுமாம். கேட்பதற்கு சுலபமாகத் தோன்றுகிறது.
I will do it myself next month when I come back to India and share it.
நன்றி
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